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Dcs / COD / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by dr strangelove » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:41 am



As usual YouTube has smashed the quality so bad you can not see what really makes this & that's all the little detailed refraction's, its like the data-rate is much lower than it should be youtube side,
I am going to have to find an alternative to youtube, at least for IL-2 1946 video's
really especially recently it appears the transcoding their side has got worse, at least for my uploads.

& for anyone interested...
Source mp4 video
Video download links, source MP4 video files,
Video mp4 source cut2 8.2 meg : https://www.mediafire.com/file/3da7lj26 ... 9.rar/file
Video mp4 source cut1 11.3 meg : https://www.mediafire.com/file/vg5updu4 ... 9.rar/file
Compare these to YouTube


:D AT LAST !
this is the effect ive been after & trying to copy from Dcs & Bos... it needs a little work but its pretty much it
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Re: Dcs / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by dr strangelove » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:36 pm

bumping this just the once as its new & been cooking for a long time
be nice for it to be noticed + i think this one is worth it
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Re: Dcs / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by dr strangelove » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:48 pm

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updated video on 1st post,

this is a v-nice effect used in newer gen sims, when i first saw this effect i was impressed (in bos i think). now i'm using the v-same technique for '46. it needs a little more work i think
& no-one is interested in this, :roll: i am surprised.

perhaps it was Oleg Maddox himself who invented this effect originally ?, who ever it was... thank you
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Re: Dcs / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by Mick » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:41 am

dr strangelove wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:48 pm
... & no-one is interested in this, :roll: i am surprised.
... well, I don't know about other folks, but I only fly offline, and the fact that, at least in 4.09, enemy AI can see through and inside clouds, facing the sun, through smoke, at night etc ... like they had an eagle eyesight and no canopy at all ... doesn't tempt me to have "realistic" scratches on canopies, in fact anything that would make vision even worse than it already is ... :oops:

I believe that one of IL2 worst flaws (still speaking about 4.09) is vision, wether it be AI planes/vehicles/ships/buildings etc ... in the distance, or smokes or flammes, sun reflection on ... canopies, they all pop up suddenly or disappear the same way, even with Visibility distance =3 in the conf.ini ... :cry:

I know this is due to the game engine limitations, when the sim was realeased, way back in ancient times, and not much can be done to "fix" that, even if you have a very powerful puter ... ;)
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Re: Dcs / COD / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by dr strangelove » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:35 am

Understood Mick, 🙂

I'm sure you already know the ai issue you talk was fixed for later versions.

I guess you could confuse for ea's or it could distract you i didn't think about this too much but then they are quite subtle.

They are purely asthetic , an immersive thing, gives viewer added depth & serves no other purpose.

The only thing I can say for now is to check these mp4's The Spit 7 will be available for 4.08 through to 4.14. & although I'm thinking I will use this effect as default for later versions as well as it being an option that can be turned off I'm thinking after what you say at least for 4.09 will keep it turned off, I'm not sure.

Re pop-up , that's a very fair point & I guess little can be done unless each aircraft object etc has been built with specific lod's.
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Re: Dcs / COD / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by Mick » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:50 am

... yep, I know about the AI visibility "bug" being fixed in later versions of the game, and several years ago, Lutz had a 4.09 mod to fix that too, but unfortunately he never released it to the public ... :|

So, whenever I can and think it is necessary, I "clean" the cockpit glass panels so as not to get that sort of "realistic" dirty look (here my MC200_7 version), 'cause how long are you going to survive aboard that MC200_7 with such a forward "vision" ...? :mrgreen:

Of course this extreme example has nothing to do with your way more realistic mod ... ;)

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Re: Dcs / COD / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by dr strangelove » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:09 pm

wow !, that is seriously dark glass :o !, i think i saw similar glass for PBY in hsfx,
...yes, at least with new technique can avoid this & move to show only natural acrylic defects for our eye to capture the depth between eye through glass to distance

,is the visibility bug fix primarily for draw distance ?

... & i coded a 4.09 Hartmann Ai version for you earlier :)
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Re: Dcs / COD / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by Mick » Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:33 pm

... yep, already DLed it and will test it asap ... ;)

... about Lutz's visibility bug fix, it was about AI seeing through and inside clouds, facing the sun, at night etc ... ;)
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Re: Dcs / COD / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by dr strangelove » Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:21 pm

Mick wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:33 pm

... about Lutz's visibility bug fix, it was about AI seeing through and inside clouds, facing the sun, at night etc ... ;)
I guess that is a fairly big job,

The Maneuver.java is a huge java file, as the file suggests it handles the Ai maneuvers etc & looking from 4.09 through to 4.13 it has had huge changes & the diff versions look quite different.

Maneuver.java
In perspective ...

4.09 is 189-kb 6705 lines of code
4.13 is 284-kb 9965 lines of code (same as 4.14)

Hsfx is actually 285-kb with 9986 lines of code.



I'll take a look at this today for 4.09. It maybe that i can get the Ai aircraft to have the trouble in clouds, that at least would give you that. If its too much work i'll have to leave it.
I'll start a new thread in Wip & post something there
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Re: Dcs / COD / Bos Cockpit Glass Effect for IL-2 1946

Post by Mick » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:05 pm

... if you somehow manage to improve this "bug", you'll become the 4.09 Rebels hero, that's for sure ...! ;)
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